Is It Love If I Don’t Feel It? (2023)

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That's, John, here's, good questions that we get all the time and it's worth addressing frequently in this podcast.

It comes from a listener named Jacqueline who writes.

Hello.

Pastor John I have a follow-up question to episode number 897, I appreciated your answer to the question is love, fake if it's motivated by a reward as a follow-up I want to ask.

This is love, fake if it's only motivated by duty, I'm thinking of relationships with a believer acts lovingly as in Philippians 2:4 and in 1st Corinthians 13, but without the feeling of love often due to ongoing sin in the life of the beloved is it enough to love because I am supposed to if I know in my heart.

It is not tied to the desire to know and glorify Christ as you mentioned as the motivation for reward fuel love in that episode.

Well, let me start with an illustration I read this years ago in every John Cardinals book, oh, the name Justice, Noah and Christian, commitment, that's, the name of it.

He says, suppose a man asks must I kiss.

My wife goodnight, Carnell gives the answer, yes, but not that kind of must that's, very profound.

It really affected my Christian even ISM.

Well, what did he mean? What did? He mean he meant that the man who asked this question, misunderstands, the nature of duty, he thinks that Duty only relates to the external behavior of kissing.

And if he kisses his wife he's done his duty, but Cornell's point is that Christian Duty is deeper than physical acts, always deeper than physical acts.

Our duty includes not only the external physical acts that are appropriate virtuous.

But also a right heart or a right disposition or right set of affections emotions.

So yes, it is a man's duty to kiss his wife, but that includes the duty of feeling affection for his wife.

Now, I think Jacqueline might be making the same mistake as the husband in that illustration, maybe I might might misunderstand her.

But let's see if this helps she asks is love, fake if it's motivated by Duty is it enough to love because I'm supposed to and that sounds like she conceives of love as a set of external behaviors, which one can we'll, even if one does not feel any gladness in the act of love, but but is that the biblical duty of love does not love biblically speaking include more than mere physical behavior, always include more than mere physical behavior.

So I want to argue that our duty is more than deed always more than deeds the duty to give, for example, includes the duty to rejoice in giving so giving or loving out of duty when there is no delight in giving is really only doing half our duty, God's will as revealed in the New Testament is that our loving behavior deeds should always include gladness in God that overflows in the hope of including other people in it.

Let me say that again, because that is an absolutely crucial ethical sentence for me, the biblical duty to love that is the very meaning of love always includes gladness in God that overflows in the act, the behaviors of love in the hope of including others in it that is in our gladness in God I get that definition of love from 2nd Corinthians, 8, verse 2 and 9 verse 7, here's what it says in a severe test of affliction there that is the Macedonians abundance of joy and their extreme poverty, overflowed in a wealth of generosity, giving loving on their part.

Notice carefully the subject of the verb overflowed is joy, their abundance of joy overflowed in generosity.

In other words, love was the overflow of joy in God.

You can go back to verse 1 to see that joy in God in God's grace being poured out on them that aimed to bless others.

And thus include others in that joy that's.

What love does always.

And notice also there were two huge obstacle standing in the way of this generosity a severe test of affliction and extreme poverty.

In other words, it was very costly.

You might even say painful for Christians to show generosity when they themselves were hurting and poverty-stricken.

If there ever was a time when a person might say, surely all that is expected of us.

Here is dutiful deeds, not heartfelt joy.

This was taught this was that time.

But, but in fact, what marked these deeds of generosity as love was the abundance of joy in God that was overflowing in love in the hopes that others would be included in that joy.

Now we know we're on the right track here because in Chapter 9 verse 7 of second Corinthians, just chapter later, Paul makes it a principle.

He takes this behavior, and he makes it a principle.

He says each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion that's another way of saying mere willpower duty for God loves a cheerful Giver now, that's the clearest statement that doing good things for people generously without any delight in doing is only half our duty.

So let me restate Jacqueline's question.

The way I would ask because there's a real problem, there's, a real problem.

She sees she's right, she's, right to see the problem and I'm just complaining that's.

The way it was at and I hope.

Something really important is being seen here's.

The way I would ask the question for John Piper.

What does a Christian do when he is confronted with the opportunity of a helpful group deed that he doesn't feel like doing that's the issue because that's real life, perfect love to God will always delight perfectly in doing God's will, but until we reach perfection, which none of us does in this life.

We are and embattled people, Satan and sin corrupt our will so that we feel dis inclinations to do the loving thing and that's reality.

And this is why Jesus said, whoever would come after me must deny himself in this fallen world where sin and Satan death incline us to love.

Self-Denial will always be a part of the duty of love.

So how does this work in the moment when there is an opportunity to do good to do good and will feel like doing good and here's? The difference between give you two options to do here and people line up on these two options, I mean, most letting up on the first one I'm afraid, the difference between a a Christian hiddenness, my understanding of our duty at that moment when we don't feel like doing the good, we ought to do and those who think emotions and don't count.

Their marginal they're, not essential at that moment that dad Group says, just do it just do it do the right thing because it's the right thing all the while ignoring the biblical teaching that doing it cheerfully is part of the right thing at that moment you just say do it as though it were your whole duty, it's, not half your duty, but the Christian hedonist, therefore does four crucial things at this moment because I'm I'm, admitting John Piper, the imperfect, fallen selfish, Christian witnessed doesn't, always love delight to do what he ought to do so here's here, the four things we ought to do number one admit, honestly to God and to yourself, you don't feel like doing the good thing.

Admit, it number two confess this to God as sin and tell him that you're, sorry for your for your heart, not being more loving 3, ask God in that moment to restore the joy, the fullest joy of your salvation and an overflowing gladness in grace that can be shared with other people, ask him to restore your joy.

And for now go ahead and act.

Do that good behavior do that half of your duty do the good deed, hoping expecting believing you've asked, you've prayed that I'm it in it joy will be awakened, and you will actually before you're done be delighting in the love before you're, even finish the loving behavior.

Now you're glad you're doing it.

I Tony, I have seen this happened in my life as a pastor over the years again and again, and again, I would be I would be on my way to the hospital when I didn't feel like and some Saint is in trouble and I I repaired to God God.

I wish I wish I had more compassion.

I wish I felt more affection.

I wish you more fully in charge of my heart right now.

Please restore to me the joy of loving my people, and how many times have I walked into that room and either before I get to the bed or as I put my hand on dears, some dear Saints arm, God awakens, gladness in being their gladness and being able to share the word gladness in being an instrument of their help gladness in hoping that some of my gladness in the more would sustain them in their trial.

So my answer to Jackman's question is that the duty of love always includes more than willpower behavior.

It includes the gladness in God that overflows in the hope of including others in it when the behavior and the gladness are both there.

The Duty is being performed.

And when the gladness is not there and we confess it and repent and pray for forgiveness and act in hope that God will restore it that too is our duty.

Yeah.

So hopeful and carefully nuanced think about Sir John, well, we're going to break for the weekend in return on Monday to hear from a listener, who wants to know what are we supposed to do with the verses in the Bible to talk about God, regretting things and repenting of things? Ah, such a great question.

And that is next if you missed any episodes from the week catch up this weekend at our online home, a desire in god, org forward, slash ask Pastor, John, I'm, your host Tony rank.

You we'll see you on Monday, you.

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Mar 13, 2023

Why do I suddenly feel nothing for my boyfriend? ›

If you feel empty even when your partner is very present in your life, that could indicate a deeper issue. You might suspect that this relationship isn't a good fit for you or experience self-doubt. It's important not to jump to conclusions. As mentioned above, depression is one common cause of feelings of emptiness.

When a man shuts down emotionally? ›

For some people, shutting down emotionally is a response to feeling overstimulated. It doesn't have anything to do with you or how they feel about you. If your husband or partner shuts down when you cry, for example, it may be because they don't know the best way to handle that display of emotions.

Why does my partner dismisses my feelings? ›

Emotional invalidation often happens due to a lack of skill on the part of the person who is invalidating. One partner may not have the capacity to effectively deal with strong emotions in other people. They may be uncomfortable with their own emotions.

Am I in love or am I not? ›

When you start thinking about someone else's desires and needs as much as your own, it's a pretty good sign that you are in love, Shaffer says. "You may not necessarily want the same things but when you are in love, you start thinking of the other person's perspective just as much as your own."

What real love should feel like? ›

Passionate love feels like instant attraction with a bit of nervousness. It's the "feeling of butterflies in your stomach,"Lewandowski says. "It's an intense feeling of joy, that can also feel a bit unsure because it feels so strong."

How do I know if its love or convenience? ›

Love couples look forward to being together

On the other hand, couples in it for convenience live parallel lives; the time they spend together is not joyful and may not be a mutual experience. When they are apart, they feel relieved, and they rarely think about their significant other.

What does it mean by love is not enough? ›

Sometimes love is not enough meaning is that love may be enough to bring two people together but not quite in carrying them through the journey of life. Love is an emotional process, compatibility a logical one. Both are needed in equal measure to build a balanced partnership.

What happens when a person doesn't get enough love? ›

Specifically, compared to people with less skin hunger, people who feel more affection-deprived: are less happy; more lonely; more likely to experience depression and stress; and, in general, in worse health. They have less social support and lower relationship satisfaction.

How do you know if you don't love yourself enough? ›

You beat yourself up for past failings. You think you have no gifts or talents or you play them down. You're self-critical, only seeing your flaws and feeling unworthy. You lack self-confidence, so you never try anything that feels risky.

When to stop in love? ›

If either you or your partner is seeking emotional or physical fulfillment from people outside of your relationship, Wadley says it's a clear indication that it's probably time to end the relationship.

What is needed more than love in a relationship? ›

Trust. One of the most important parts of a relationship is to trust one another completely. You have to be able to trust that they won't stray and you trust them with your feelings. You have to trust each other enough to be vulnerable on an emotional and physical level, too.

Why do I barely feel love? ›

Not wanting to fall in love can sometimes signify a problem with esteem, attachment, anxiety, or another issue. You might feel anxious about becoming attached to someone and potentially losing them. Or you might have low self-esteem and struggle with feeling that you are unloveable.

Why am I so desperate for someone to love me? ›

In many ways, this is an understandable response. We feel alone, insecure or vulnerable, and being with others feel makes us less so. This urge towards relatedness fulfills not just our need for protection and security but also for purpose and direction in life.

How do you realize you are enough? ›

How to know that you are good enough
  1. Step 1: Face your fears. When you start asking yourself the right questions about why you're not feeling good enough, you'll find it's related to fear and anxiety. ...
  2. Step 2: Become accountable. ...
  3. Step 3: Re-focus on your goals. ...
  4. Step 4: Create a personalized plan.

How do you know if your love is strong enough? ›

30 Signs Your Relationship Is Strong Enough to Last Forever
  • You can have fun together doing absolutely nothing.
  • You get along with each other's friends.
  • You're able to work through your problems constructively.
  • You have a strong friendship with each other.
  • Their family likes you and vice versa.
Apr 12, 2017

At what point is a relationship over? ›

There's No Emotional Connection

One of the key signs your relationship is ending is that you are no longer vulnerable and open with your partner. A cornerstone of happy, healthy ​relationships is that both partners feel comfortable being truly open to sharing thoughts and opinions with one another.

What are the red flags in a relationship? ›

Red flags in a relationship include excessive jealousy and frequent lying. You should also be wary of a partner who frequently criticizes you or puts you down. Another major red flag is an unwillingness to compromise — relationships shouldn't be one-sided.

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